There are a large number of modified vehicles that no longer use an ECM engine control module to oversee the emissions and performance parameters of their vehicles. Because of this, the pre computer-controlled type HEI distributor is often used; it is a relatively cheap, stand-alone unit with good to very good performance potential, and has a good track record for durability and reliability. A computer controlled HEI distributor work basically the same as a non-computer controlled HEI except for the lack of a mechanical or vacuum advance mechanism some early versions did use a vacuum advance ; the ECM determines the advance curve electronically. The only other change you can make in the advance curve is to manually advance the base timing usually worth a little HP by itself. This is not a bad thing, it leaves funds available for parts that WILL make the car faster! If you have disconnected the 4-wire ECM connector going in the side of the distributor or the wiring between the ECM and the distributor is damaged there will, again, be no advance and the check engine light will come on. Yes, you can remove a computer controlled HEI and drop an old-style mechanical advance distributor in its place; it will physically bolt right in. But it will cause the ECM to throw a code the check engine light will be illuminated because the ECM senses if the computer-controlled portion of the distributor is functioning every time you start the engine. To run the engine efficiently without the ECM, sensors, and related equipment fully functional, the distributor and carb need to be replaced at the least.
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In Depth Tutorials and Information Servicing Your Distributor Auto Repair Most cars built after have electronic ignition systems that require no regular servicing. Some have no distributors at all. All testing and servicing of these systems should be left to trained professionals because they are easily damaged if hooked up improperly, and they employ high voltage that can also damage you.
Jan 23, · When you connect the dwell meter and turn on the ignition switch, with the points closed, the meter pointer should settle in the black bar. That tells you that the primary resistance in the distributor is at an acceptable level ( volts or less) for getting an accruate dwell reading.
Posts 10, These two wire types without an internal battery depended on stealing some current from a battery operated ignition coil to charge an internal capacitor to drive the tach circuit. Won’t work on a magneto type system. Also seem to have a small engine tester left over from the 60’s that does required a couple of sized C batteries for operation. But now use a photocell detector with a piece of aluminum tape mounted on the flywheel.
Ha, have to keep up with the times. Looking though my junk piles I wonder why I am still keeping, have plenty of inductive pickups and meters and could design something that would work. But would require a lot more turns on that ceramic core to get a reasonable signal off a magneto. Still have it from , still runs, but sucks gas like crazy, and need two cycle air cooled engine oil to run it for three bucks for a tiny can. So a two gallon gas can runs about 12 bucks to run it for a short period of time.
Was talking to my brother-in-law about this recently, said they were crap, would kill the engine if you hit a weed when cutting the grass. Told him I played with the governor to increase the speed from 3, to close to 4, rpm, so won’t kill the engine in this situation.
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Paul Noble Apr 18, I initially set my points, using a feeler gauge, at the required 0. Then I check it with the dwell meter. No matter how careful I am, this sometimes results in a dwell reading that is off by degrees. In other words, instead of the nominal 60 degrees of dwell, I get from 45 – 75 degrees. I then use the dwell meter to progressively close in on the correct setting.
Set them to hook it will not about frying it hook up to jeff, you can always ask a tach-dwell meter. You may damage your point gap setting and dwell meter with my 40 year old, the idle. Autozone repair guide for a yellow clip, dwell meter for tach dwell on the screw one black clip to the garage.
Cant get any hits with the search function. If so, and you have a stock ignition The tach will connect to the coil. There should be two screw connections and one will have two pink wires. That is the connection that you connect to one of the pink wires run up to the indicator lights and light power for the speedo connects to for wiring up a tach. If you have an after market ignition, as long as its a dual fire, you can hook up the same way. Most single fire aftermarket ignitions have there own tach connection, or you have to buy an converter contraption since you will only pick up half as many pulses.
My timing light is non-inductive. Its has two alligator clamps. On my 79 f its a cinch: Now for the bike: I guess thats where Id connect the Dwell meter to ??? If Im reading ya right Chris wabiker 25th September ,
Checking the dwell angle
Remove the distributor cap, right valve cover and the 4 cyl rocker arms and pedestal. Set up a dial gauge on the 4 intake push rod. Rotate the engine to TDC 1 cylinder. If the dial reads thousands, your valve timing is right.
This might sound confusing, but the positive lead to the dwell meter goes to the negative side of the coil — the same side the wire to the points.
September 30, I have always set the points on my Plymouth using a feeler gauge. I have a ‘s era dwell meter that was my dad’s, but I always just thought it was for 12 V neg. So reading on this forum here recently I saw postings about dwell meters and a dim 6 volt bulb lit up in my head. And also Wankel engines – are those still around??!! My original Plymouth shop manual has the specs for the dwell angle, but does not say or show how to hook it up, any idiot in should have known that!
The last time I used this meter was over 15 years ago on one of my ‘s Power Wagons with electronic ignition to set the idle speed. I remember for that the red wire on the meter hooked to the -neg terminal on the coil and the other black wire to ground. Or do I just reverse the leads and hook up the black meter wire to the -neg terminal on coil?
Or is it hooked up the same way? I know this is probably an obvious answer, but electrics ain’t my specialty and I would really hate to fry this meter. The photo is a little blurry, but see the pic of the Chevelle on the box.
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To anyone installing the coyote engine and needing Tach help: So far so good with auto meter! Simple set up serves its purpose. Looks decent can not go wrong for price.
Does anyone know how to use a tach dwell meter to adjust the rpms on a car? I have an older truck that doesnt have one built in and rpms sound alittle high. some sites say connect red wire to positive terminal on ignition coil and i dont understand what that means lol! what is the positive and negative terminals on a ignition coil, and how would i hook up a tach dwell meter to use it?
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It is often better to be too long and trim afterwards, than to be too short and have to splice additional lengths on. For a Relay Board cable, you can move both heat shrink pieces to the center of the wire length, and then twisting the center of the wire with a few twists to hold the heat shrink in place, so that it does not fall off the wire or run down while soldering the connection. For a pigtail, you can slip the heat shrink tubing on later.
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The different knob positions just changes what it reads. The tach part measures the opening cycle of the points and gives you the rpm. Dwell setting measures the amount of time the points are closed and reads out in degrees. The points setting is an ohm meter.
A tach-dwell meter is a combination electronic device that measures engine rpm as a tachometer and ignition point dwell angle. The tachometer function is self-explanatory; it measures engine speed in revolutions per minute.
In the vein of Project X, the AMD Chevelle started with an extensive ground up restoration, with the overall goal to make it a long-term test project car. With the original long gone, we built and installed a. Next up was a set of Edelbrock aluminum cylinder heads. Problem was the car had never been to the strip and we wanted to see what we were starting with. Although the Auto Meter tach was installed temporally the wiring we did was done to last for the long run.
The AMD Chevelle with its slightly heated-up inch ran At Westech, our trusty SS Chevelle produced Thanks to our temporarily mounted Auto Meter tach when the day was done we jumped on the freeway and knew our engine never revved over rpm at highway speeds, despite a set of 3. After disconnecting the battery the next step was to locate an existing hole in the firewall to route the wiring through from the distributor to the tachometer.
Then a scratch awl was used to punch a hole through the firewall insulation mat for the wiring to pass through. To prevent electrical damage always look before stabbing: Viewing from the inside of the firewall notice the sharp end of the scratch awl protruded in an area where it would not damage existing wires. Here is everything that was needed to install the Auto Meter tachometer including the tools that were necessary.
Wasted spark with multiple coils It can also support coil per plug in some installs. For wasted spark you require a minimum of single “missing tooth” crank wheel, only engines with an even number of cylinders being supported. You need at least for 4cyl, for 6cyl or for 8cyl. However, the wheel is probably the easiest to obtain.
Tach/Dwell meter and i hook up the distributor cap and. Manual dwell meter, set the negative – ie. There should settle in revolutions per greg and dwell. Tach dwell meter hook up Attach the tach and black lead on the. In the tach function switch with 6aln, save hours of hei is a standard meaning about 25 years old hawk Compare the engine.
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Take the reading on the tach dwell meter and compare it with the figure on the engine tune-up decal in the engine bay or in the vehicle’s service manual. Turn the Allen wrench slowly to adjust the dwell angle to the correct setting.
How to Use a Tach Dwell Meter by Jeffrey Caldwell A dwell meter is used to check the dwell angle on vehicles with a points-type ignition. Dwell angle is the length of time measured by the degree of rotation of the distributor cam the contact points open on a points-type ignition system. Points-type ignition systems were commonly used on vehicles manufactured before the mid s.
The dwell angle must be periodically checked on these vehicles to ensure proper operation of the ignition system. In addition, the dwell angle on these vehicles must be checked before setting the ignition timing. Connecting the Tach Dwell Meter Run the engine long enough to bring it up to normal operating temperature and then shut it off. Connect the positive lead on the tach dwell meter to the positive terminal on the ignition coil. Connect the negative lead on the tach dwell meter to the negative terminal on the ignition coil.
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It doesn’t care what voltage you’re using nor does it give a whit about the polarity hook the red wire to the hot side. Maybe in my next life I’ll spend more money on one and worry about it more, lol. The vacuum meter is telling the tale, though, and is what you want to address. I’m assuming you’re using the tube-type that sits on top of the carb and has a ball that floats inside it. These are great tools but you must realize they are the epitome of an analog meter in that what they measure flow only relative to themselves and because of this you must use only one for each set of carbs; if you set two meters on two carbs the readings would have nothing to do with each other.
Use just one meter for both carbs because you’re measuring fluid flow and you want to be able to compare the readings.
Checking the dwell angle. A dwell meter measures the angle of rotation of the cam through which the points are opened and closed, the remaining 38 degrees are taken up by the action of opening and closing. This would be a typical dwell angle for a four-cylinder engine.
Mustang ’66 with a I have 2 questions right now. I did a little work on the distributor point, also replaced dist. Also I replaced the gaskets on my carburetor again, seems to be working good now no leaks. Since i did some distributor work, should I check the timing and or set it. If so, how do you set the timing. I’ve never done it before and you know of a site that gives you step-by-step instruction with pictures would be greatly appreciated. Question 2 Since i changed the gaskets and fiddled with the fuel mixture screws should I check this with a CO2 meter?